what would it cost

[madfish]

now don't get the wrong idear here, I have no money, I am just wondering how much it would cost to build a machine based on this AMD proc.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103727

The AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor. (yes I copyed pasted that)

A good 512MB DX10/11 video card and psu, Hdd, DVD.


I just want something to dream about for gaming, I been in the hospital for a couple days and I have to go back next month for surgery. I like to be able to be laying there thinking, boy, if I had this I could play cod's back to war and the stalker series call of pripyat, clear sky and shadow of chernobly that Sue got me. sigh..

I am getting $178.00 back from the states renters rebate program, but that has to go on my cats vet bill when it comes in july.

Anyhow, I was just wondering what a new machine costs now days to build, my last was five years a go.

Edit: spelling

[Shyguy]

Keep dreaming Jim...

seriously, some of those desired specs might be coming your way soon, 512MB, DX10 & PSU



Edit: You also got PM

[spudly]

it kinda depends what you can reuse from old builds if nothing then it's probably about a 1000 or so. cpu 185 mb 150ish at least 4gb of memory ~100 2 gtx 260 or better video cards ~380 hd 80-90 psu 100 sata dvd drive 50. and that's reusing a case, no monitor or physx card or sound card.

[madfish]

all I got spud is a full size12 bay server tower case, everything inside got baked a while a go.
no money anyhow. I was looking at newegg, and man, I got so confused, LOL, when proc's went to P4 I got lost. same goes for video cards, when they went 128MB.

what the heck is a physx card spud?

[Shyguy]

A PhysX card is for Nvidia Physics Acceleration in certain games, not all support it, and those that do have varying results.

Formerly PhysX was from a company Called Ageia, but the company was bought up by Nvidia a couple years ago when they were going under.

eventually via Driver support, Nvidia implemented Ageia's technology into its Geforce 8 series or higher cards, starting with the 9 series originally (9800GT/GTX, and almost immediately after wards, support in 8600/8800 Series followed.)

basically it allowed the already excessive GPU Processing power of the 8 and 9 series cards to also compute PhysX programming.

since Nvidia released their CUDA software for the 8 and 9 series, it was only logical that PhysX could be done on the same cards.

more on PhysX here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_new.html

& here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhysX


but with the Geforce GTX series (GTX 260, 280, 275, 285, 295) and even newer G & GT series (GT 210, 220, 240 and mobile chips), they support it natively.

The nice thing with it, is that if you have a PC with a spare PCI, or PCIE slot, you can put run say a mid range Geforce 9 card, or even a GTX card, and use a PCI or PCIE based card like a 9500GT or even a 9400GT, and the Drivers will detect the card, and use it for PhysX processing if the games or software support it.

now keep in mind I'm not talking about SLI, but 2 separate cards one for video, one for Physics.

depending on how hardcore of a gamer you are, its still a bit of a gimmicky thing, but some professions like Scientists or Engineers can benefit from this.

its along the same lines as using GPU's to crunch data for Folding@Home, its not graphics data, but computational data, advanced equations, formula's, etc, that the GPU process's.

Originally Agiea licensed the tech out to 3rd parties to make PhysX cards, like Gigabyte, Asus, etc...

but after Nvidia bought them, so far the ONLY actual PhysX card to be released, is the Evga GTX 275 Coop Edition, which runs for between $315 and $370.

it has a standard GTX 275 GPU on the card, and pairs it with a GTS 250 GPU for PhysX. 1280MB total RAM, and 368 Stream Processors Total.

its sort of a baby GTX 295 in a way. (GTX 295 is 2x GTX 275's on a single board, but in SLI).

users can run Dual SLI with a 3rd card for PhysX, and even now, Triple SLI with a 4th card for PhysX, and if I'm not mistaken with some of the high end Evga and other Boards, that consist of 7 or 8 PCI Express x16 slots, they are even capable of 4 Cards in SLI with a 5th for PhysX.


Keep in mind PhysX is an Nvidia Thing only, it IS possible to run a PhysX with an ATI card, running an Nvidia card for PhysX paired with an ATI for video, but there's a lot of tweaking and modding of drivers and what not that needs to be done to get it to work, assuming it works at all.

[spudly]

thank you for the explanation. Unless you have something against intel you might want to look at getting a i7-920 they oc like a beast and they are only like $15 more

[Shyguy]

more like $100 more, the i5/i7 for socket 1156 is in the price range you speak of.

the core i7 930 replaces the 920 in the $300-ish price range, was the other day the i7 920 was going for $288 on newegg.



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115202


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115225

[madfish]

LOl I love Intel iron, I was just going by price and GHz, I don't understand squat about any proc above a P 3.

(despertly looking words up on bing while sean explaines phys-x cards to a dummy)

[spudly]

microcenter has them for 199 for the 920 or 860 but i don't know if you have one of those anywhere near you. I got mine for 219 then of course the next week they drop the price

[Shyguy]

Originally Posted by clark40

Keep in mind PhysX is an Nvidia Thing only, it IS possible to run a PhysX with an ATI card, running an Nvidia card for PhysX paired with an ATI for video, but there's a lot of tweaking and modding of drivers and what not that needs to be done to get it to work, assuming it works at all.

Um, yeah.... Thanks for copying exactly what I already typed above....

[Shyguy]

looked up the i7's and yeah MC has them that cheap, one of the guys over at TechIMO, lives practically next door to one LOL, so used his location for the site.


but MC always has these things that cheap, just about anywhere else, you'll find them near SRP.