MY CPU IS GOING 100% all the time [Archive] - Xtreme PC Central Tech Forums

NeoStarO1

11-07-2003, 11:33 AM

Do you have any Anti-Virus installed or a firewall?

Go to here (http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp) for a free online virus scan and run a scan this to rule out any viruses. Many viruses out there will also hog up all cpu cycles.

If your answer is No to my first question here are some freeware links you can check out.

Grisofts Free version Anti-Virus Program (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php)

ZoneAlarm Freeware firewall (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/znalm/freeDownload.jsp)

Lavasofts Freeware Adaware Removal program (http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/) This one is for help getting rid of spyware on your computer.

As TMX asked what OS are you using?

davidw

11-07-2003, 12:00 PM

Welcome to XPC!

lokodezine

11-07-2003, 1:48 PM

Yes I have Norton and run AV everyday.
I also run spybot everyday.

I just installed the XP Firewall this week and had my pc up and running (from reformat) for about 2-3 weeks now.

I am using Windows XP

Anyother ideas.

Mntsnow

11-07-2003, 2:18 PM

What process is using up the processor time? to find out just hit Control Alt Delete keys and then choose "Task Manager" Then hit the "Processes" tab. Then just click on the column "CPU" and it will order the list by the application using the most to least or least to most depending on how many times you click on it :)

Let us know what the name of the process is that is consistantly using the processor time..or better yet list the top 5 :)

a Bill

11-07-2003, 3:46 PM

Mine runs at 100% too. Oh, wait a minute, I participate in distributed computing projects ;)

lokodezine

11-07-2003, 7:42 PM

Hi I am looking at the proccess right now and when I open a internet explorer or program or just go to another site the USAGE shoots up to 100 % then goest down to like 80 then 64 back up to 80 and such then finally goes back down to 5 -10 but then i do antyghing even move my mouse it shooots up more...

The highest 5 processes are
-
1. iexplorer.exe - 25,596 K
2.svchost.exe - 23,224 K
3. Explorer.exe - 23,152 K
4. YPager.exe - 15,456 K
5. NAVAPW32.EXE - 6,400 K

I am just worried my pc has slowed down tremedensouly -

I got 1 gig of ram so I could run multiple stuff simotaneously but now it takes a while for me to load just another internet Explorer or anything and my CPU is overloaded especially when running a program like photoshop and I just did reformatt my hardrive...

Also my dvd player has shot out but that is in a different post!

GohanSSJ

11-07-2003, 7:51 PM

Those numbers aren't the right ones, you need to check for the other number, it's between 0 and 100, this is the percentage of the amount it uses.

lokodezine

11-07-2003, 8:01 PM

where do I find the percentages

I did CTRL ALT DEL

Went to Process

Thanks
Lee

lokodezine

11-07-2003, 8:07 PM

Originally posted by Mntsnow
What process is using up the processor time? to find out just hit Control Alt Delete keys and then choose "Task Manager" Then hit the "Processes" tab. Then just click on the column "CPU" and it will order the list by the application using the most to least or least to most depending on how many times you click on it :)

Let us know what the name of the process is that is consistantly using the processor time..or better yet list the top 5 :)

----0 k

I think this is what u guys mean - I clicked CPU

The top 5 are

1. IMAGE NAME = SYSTEM IDLE PROCESS
CPU - 98
MEM USAGE - 20K

-------THE BELOW - 2-7 are constantly changing - but 2 and 3 are there the most_

2. IMAGE NAME - explorer.exe
CPU - 01 (02)
MEM USAGE - 23,156

3. IMAGE NAME - YPager
CPU - 01 (02)
MEM USAGE - 15,520

4. wisptis.exe
5. taskmgr.exe
6.iexplorer.exe
7.lass.exe

GohanSSJ

11-07-2003, 8:12 PM

Well press ctr + alt + del, then go to processes, then you should see something like the following (i run a Dutch version of Win XP)

Procesname - Username - CPU - Memory
EXPLORER.EXE - <Your name here> - 00 - 16.988

The 00 is the amount of CPU % it uses, 1 thing uses more then the other, but most only low like 00, or 01.

The question is which are using the most.

lokodezine

11-07-2003, 9:05 PM

its posted above

Can aanything else be causing this , like wiring or anything?

GohanSSJ

11-07-2003, 9:13 PM

What is that what takes 98% of your cpu? Unless that's a Distrubuted Computing program then that's just wrong.

Could you make a screenshot of it?

Also try and close it down and see what it does.

And did you checked for virusses and spyware?

lokodezine

11-07-2003, 9:21 PM

Here is the screen shot

Yes I ran for spyware adn everything

My CPU is 30 C thats cold it should be runnign quiker than it is but I go to assceoris to load paint and it took a while for it to move over like Accesories -----> took a while ----> all programs

NDC

11-07-2003, 9:27 PM

System Idle process is supposed to be at that usage level. That is the HLT command which runs when your system is at idle.

That is perfectly normal under NT kernel based OSs such as NT, 2K, XP...

GohanSSJ

11-07-2003, 9:42 PM

Yeah it says CPU Usage: 7% at the bottom, i don't have such a thing in my task manager though.

In any case i wonder what's causing the problems then.

a Bill

11-08-2003, 3:17 PM

HDD needs defragging and cleaning of excess files.

lokodezine

11-09-2003, 4:17 PM

IO have done those all the time once a week

Mntsnow

11-09-2003, 4:42 PM

Looks like you have a ton of applications running either in the background or for your normal stuff ...How much memory do you have?

lokodezine

11-09-2003, 4:59 PM

1 GigByte of Ram

Mntsnow

11-09-2003, 6:06 PM

Hmmmm By chance did you install MS Update # 811493 with your antivirus running in the background? Uninstall that update and reboot. Then turn off your AV and then reinstall that update reboot and then re-enable your av...This was a problem for many users...

Win2Kuser

05-03-2004, 12:30 PM

Have you been into BIOS and turned your cpu cache off?

I have seen a similar thing with a friend of mine, turned the cpu cache back on, and away she went :)

Worth a try I suppose

If your machine only slows down when using or accessing your hard drive, it would normally be down to de-fragging, but if you do that once a week, perhaps you have turned off the Ultra DMA setting in your device manager?

My moneys on Mntsnows post above though...

GohanSSJ

05-03-2004, 1:19 PM

Ehm... the last post was half a year ago, how did you find it?

Plum Ugly

05-03-2004, 3:26 PM

how many icons are runnin in the lower right hand corner??

gamer-X1023

05-03-2004, 8:53 PM

use microsoft bootvis it lowers the start up time and lowers the mem usage on the processes when u press alt-ctrl-delate trust me it does!go here at http://www.softpedia.com/public/cat/12/2/12-2-1.shtml

dannychuckle

05-28-2004, 12:01 PM

As Gohan pointed out - this thread is ancient! how'd you dig this one out Win2k?

GohanSSJ

05-28-2004, 1:33 PM

Well you done pretty good considered the last post was 24 days ago. ;)

dannychuckle

05-29-2004, 7:44 PM

:D good point!

phil

09-30-2006, 1:21 PM

hey all
i seem to have the same problem with my CPU but i have just got the pc brand new and well the spec it says it shouldnt be no way near like this, i had a read at what you said but i havnt got no virus's and well its no more than 2 weeks old lol i just installed battlefield 1942 game and started playin it but i cudnt play it cuz it frooze every couple of sec and well my old computer which hasnt got as much ram could download music play a game and be on msn and still have no problem lol
i have a:
Pentium D Dual Core 64Bit 6.8Ghz with 2GB of ram
i am using windows xp service pack 2
have norton firewall and antivirus

so can any1 help me on the matter as im sure there must be some more solutions within the 2 years this thread has been left lol
cheers
phil

GohanSSJ

09-30-2006, 1:25 PM

Could you make a screenshot of your taskmanager (processes tab), and make sure all processes can be seen.

phil

09-30-2006, 1:57 PM

wont let me only after 15 replys :( got a email addy ic an send it to or will it work if i pm u?

also in the time off gettin to images for you my pc screen has gone blank and the only way to restart it is to push button on pc now surely that ant right either so basicly it keeps crashin yea? also earlier on today it restarted it self while i was usin it

GohanSSJ

09-30-2006, 2:16 PM

The majority is being used by BF1942, and your CPU usage isn't maxed, or near it, so i don't think it's a processor problem, good chance they are harddrive problems, but then again it can be a lot, as there are so many things that can slow down a PC. Perhaps it has to do with dualcore, i know my brother had some stuff, but i don't know the details.

Not sure how much i can help you since i have no expierence with any of those problems, or hardware.

http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpu1qm9.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpu2rs5.jpg
(His screenshots)

phil

09-30-2006, 2:21 PM

well when i actually start playin the bf1942 game it goes pretty much to 100% so the game is to slow to play i no it takes alot of memory up but it should still work fine well it did on my old pc which was just a P4 1gb ram but thanks for lookin anyways dude much appreciated if any1 else knows any thing please tell me
cheers

ThRoNkA

09-30-2006, 3:10 PM

Pentium D Dual Core 64Bit 6.8Ghz with 2GB of ram
i am using windows xp service pack 2
have norton firewall and antivirus

No such processor, but I assume you mean the 3.8 version that got released.
It can be several issues: power or drivers. I would ensure you have the system built with enough thermal disipation anda nice power supply.

Tested your system, once verified you have heat transfer in place, with memtest, dft and such. Memory and hdd errors can cause hard freezes and locks.

littledoc

09-30-2006, 4:18 PM

Phil,

There is nothing I see in the task manager that is particularly unusual. It's safe to say that the problem is not because of some other program eating up resources. It's not unusual for a game to take up 100% of CPU or close to it.

First things first:
- Make sure you have the latest video drivers installed
- Make sure you have the latest patches/updates for BF1942
- If those don't work, try disabling the Norton Firewall. I doubt that's the problem, but I've seen Norton mess up some stuff.

If you've done that and still have trouble, you might run two programs: I/O Meter and Memtest like Thronka was saying. These programs test the hard drive and memory, respectively. They'll help you figure out if you have any specific hardware problems with either. The things you're describing--extreme choppiness, freezing, etc., sound memory related.

You made a typo there with your CPU. You also didn't mention what kind of graphics hardware you have. Posting back with more detailed system specs might help.

Cowboybooter

09-30-2006, 4:39 PM

Welcome to XPC, phil ! :)

:)

Bob

phil

10-01-2006, 4:59 AM

cheers guys for the reply ill try them all and ill let u know how i get on
and thanks bob :)

full spec:
INTEL Pentium D ''Dual Core X2'' CPU

- 64Bit Dual Core 6.8Ghz (2 x 3.4Ghz Dual Cores)

- LGA-775 Design & 2 x L2 Caches

- Genuine Retail Box With Heatsink/Fan

775Pin VIA Chipset Motherboard
- 3 x PCI Slots, LAN Port & 6 x USB2.0 Ports

- DDR400, IDE, SATA, Dual Core & AGP Supported

- 5.1 Intergrated Sound & Superb Graphics

2GB DDR400 PC3200 RAM Memory

UniChrome PRO 3D Graphics

- Great Performance Graphics

- AGP 8X Slot Available On Motherboard

Latest X-Blade Case With SILENT 450W PSU

i think thats most of it

phil

10-01-2006, 6:52 AM

ok well i downloaded some updates of windows updater, installed the disc again that come with the pc with drivers on to make sure there on here also installed couple of patches of bf1942 but still didnt work i have managed to play the game for about 5 min and then it starts freezin and woteva so illl try and download those 2 programs c what that tells me, surely i shudnt have to do this with a new pc with this kinda spec, like i said be4 this game worked fine on my old pc

i found this driver website that tells me if there are bad drivers on my system and i got this report back was just wonderin if any1 as herd of this website and if its any good drivershq .com
gohanSSJ i sent u a PM with the resualts of my system if u could please post the link for people to c i would be very greatful cheers

GohanSSJ

10-01-2006, 7:08 AM

http://www.drivershq.com/Non-Members-Results.asp?guid=2719377

Btw sorry about the not being able to post links, we disabled it untill you got 10 posts to reduce spam advertising.

phil

10-01-2006, 8:00 AM

Btw sorry about the not being able to post links, we disabled it untill you got 10 posts to reduce spam advertising.

cheers and np i understand, hate the people that spoil it for others but thats life i suppose

and ive just tried the memtest it sid i had to run 2 off them and put 812mb in each so i di but they both come back with no errors :S

I/O Meter well i downloaded and opened it up i ant bein stupid but i didnt no how to start it or nothin lol pretty much all the buttons at the top you couldnt use and i didnt no how to set it up or for how long

littledoc

10-01-2006, 8:43 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phil, your problem is clear now, but you aren't going to like it....

UniChrome PRO 3D Graphics

- Great Performance Graphics

- AGP 8X Slot Available On Motherboard

Sorry my friend, but Unichrome PRO is integrated graphics (meaning it is built into your motherboard). Unfortunately that is not nearly enough power for playing modern videogames. You need a dedicated graphics card from nVidia or ATI.

It says you have a free AGP slot. I'd recommend you fill it with an nVidia 6800 series card. Careful not to get the "x" series from ATI or the "7" series from nVidia, as these both use the newer PCI-E format.

There's nothing wrong with your computer. You just need more hardware under the hood!

Also, I see what you meant about the processor. Hehe. FYI, it doesn't really work like that, though. Having a dual-core 3.4ghz processor isn't like having a single 6.8ghz processor; it's like having two seperate 3.4ghz processors. :) They simply offload work between each other to accomplish certain tasks faster. The performance increase varies depending on the application.

Incidentally, this is why the first question to anyone having trouble with their system should always be, "What are the specs?"

Which reminds me Phil, who makes your PC (Dell, Gateway, etc)? And if you don't mind me asking, about how much did you spend on it?

GohanSSJ

10-02-2006, 1:26 AM

Actually the 7600GS and 7800GS can be bought as AGP, and the first X series can be bought as AGP aswell

phil

10-02-2006, 5:47 AM

ah cheers littledoc that would make sence, cant believe i didnt think of that i mean i know abit about pc's but obviously not enough lol
right well i kinda got it off ebay but the company is palicomp .co.uk they make loads of them and you can add extras and upgrades i brought this off ebay for 311 pounds + 24.50 postage which was for this spec:
INTEL Pentium D ''Dual Core X2'' CPU

- 64Bit Dual Core 6.8Ghz (2 x 3.4Ghz Dual Cores)

- LGA-775 Design & 2 x L2 Caches

- Genuine Retail Box With Heatsink/Fan
775Pin VIA Chipset Motherboard
- 3 x PCI Slots, LAN Port & 6 x USB2.0 Ports

- DDR400, IDE, SATA, Dual Core & AGP Supported

- 5.1 Intergrated Sound & Superb Graphics
1GB DDR400 PC3200 RAM Memory
- Major Brand Used For Awesome Performance

- Fully Upgradeable (Larger Size, Faster)
80GB MAXTOR Hard Drive
- 7,200 RPM, ATA133 & 2MB Cache
- Major Brand Used For Awesome Performance

- Fully Upgradable (Larger Size, Faster Connection)

16X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer & Dual Format
- DVD+/-RW, DVD-ROM & CDRW All In One

- Fastest DVDRW Available, Burns 8GB Dual Layer DVDs
- Compatible With All Packages, Nero, PowerDVD Etc

- Fully Upgradeable (Extra Drive For Disk2Disk Copying)

Connectivity Range
- 6 USB2.0 Ports (Inc 2 On The Front)

- LAN Port For Networking/Broadband

- 5.1 Quality Intergrated Sound

3.5'' Floppy Disk Drive

- Still Widely Used & Still Included In All Palicomp PCs

UniChrome PRO 3D Graphics

- Great Performance Graphics

- AGP 8X Slot Available On Motherboard

- Fully Upgradeable (Massive Range Of Cards In Stock)

then i added these to it

2 x Silent Case Fans @ £9.99
Add 1GB DDR400 RAM @ £39.99
160GB ATA @ £29.99
Add A Separate 16X48X DVD-ROM Drive @ £19.99 Inc Vat
Windows XP Home @ £69.99

Grand total of 515.45 pounds

your gonna tell me ive been ripped off now arnt ya lol

so how much are these graphic cards about i no there all different prices but i want atleast a half decent one that will last me

cheers

and o yea thanks for the info on the processor basicly that was pointless buying yes?

phil

10-02-2006, 8:27 AM

how about this graphics card be ok?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nvidia-6800-Graphic-card-AGP-new_W0QQitemZ280033290043QQihZ018QQcategoryZ67864Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

ThRoNkA

10-02-2006, 10:53 AM

how about this graphics card be ok?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nvidia-6800-Graphic-card-AGP-new_W0QQitemZ280033290043QQihZ018QQcategoryZ67864Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Be Weary about buying generic brand cards. Sometimes they use cheap memory to keep costs down.

I ahve bought some generic cards and found them real nice, some have been a real pain in speed and testing. Just my 2 cents.

And it sounds like you got ripped a new one. Here in the US, I can get the same system build by my hands for 150 pounds less - including OS. (thats a substansial amount of money!)
INTEL Pentium D ''Dual Core X2'' CPU
I hate it when companies do this! Its a Intel ViiV Dual Core PRocessor - AKA Duo Core.
Not 6.8 GHZ, just 3.4Ghz. And X2 is AMD, not Intel.

phil

10-02-2006, 11:36 AM

ah only 150 wow o well compred to prices off other companies over here that ant to bad what i paid but i suppose theres the difference of buildin one your self

thanks for the info on the cards will look into it but the dude that recommend me get that graphics card above seems to know what he is on about to lol cant win in this world always good and bad things about every thing y cant sommit just be good hehe

Not 6.8 GHZ, just 3.4Ghz. And X2 is AMD, not Intel

well i can c in side my case and i can c a intel sticker so i dont no but thanks the 2 processor stuff is still good tho right?

ThRoNkA

10-02-2006, 12:25 PM

phil

10-02-2006, 12:56 PM

ah ok i c thanks

GohanSSJ

10-02-2006, 1:29 PM

phil

10-02-2006, 3:11 PM

ah now thats what i like to hear cheers bud lol made me feel a bit better about buyin this system dont seem a complete fool now with the whole graphics card and all hehe

littledoc

10-02-2006, 4:42 PM

Actually you will notice a difference, with single core the processor has to handle everything, the game and windows + other applications, with dualcore 1 can be used for the windows and other applications, whereas the other core will focus on the game.

It really does make a difference, and with upcoming games using the second core, and Windows Vista making better use of it, a dual core is a must.

Eh... I think dual-cores are pretty much the only choice if you're buying now, especially since Core 2 Duos completely slaughter any other chip, but I'm still really skeptical of dual-core's impact on gaming.

Back when they first came out you heard about how you could game plus do lots of other stuff... but I think most people just game when they game. Some people might have IM on or something, but they're probably not using multiple system-intensive applications.

Developers like Crytek have been talking about making better use of dual-cores, but it remains to be seen just because games aren't really CPU-limited at all right now.

So... they were saying last year that dual-cores were going to have a big impact on games, and they didn't... now they're saying next year... I'll believe it when I see it. Sounds suspiciously like that whole 64-bit revolution.

littledoc

10-02-2006, 4:48 PM

how about this graphics card be ok?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nvidia-6800-Graphic-card-AGP-new_W0QQitemZ280033290043QQihZ018QQcategoryZ67864Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Personally, I wouldn't buy parts new off of eBay. Used products from seller to seller are one thing, but a lot of times card companies will not honor their warranty on a new product unless you purchased it from an authorized reseller. I know that's the case with eVGA, where I've purchased all my graphics cards.

Besides, a brand new 6800 card from nVidia or a 9800 card from ATI can both be bought very cheaply now from any legitimate retailer like NewEgg. I sincerely doubt you'll save much, if anything, by buying off of eBay.

GohanSSJ

10-02-2006, 5:45 PM

9800 card? Ehm... that's old crap so to speak... i think you are very confused with the X series and the X1000 series, the new X1000 series are all PCI-E etc, the old X series are mostly AGP (or atleast they are all available as AGP), for example the X800/850 cards are the rival of the 6800 cards, the 9800 cards are rivals of the Geforce FX (series 5) cards.
Back when they first came out you heard about how you could game plus do lots of other stuff... but I think most people just game when they game. Some people might have IM on or something, but they're probably not using multiple system-intensive applications.
True, but a single core is never 100% with the game, which can cause small frame drops etc, unless you are running besides Windows itself, and all automated things shut off.
Developers like Crytek have been talking about making better use of dual-cores, but it remains to be seen just because games aren't really CPU-limited at all right now.
It's using the second core for physics.
So... they were saying last year that dual-cores were going to have a big impact on games, and they didn't... now they're saying next year... I'll believe it when I see it. Sounds suspiciously like that whole 64-bit revolution.
Single cores are history, simple as that, new games will be made to make use of 2 cores, or even more (they are coming aswell).

It's all coming, dualcore is getting standard for new PC's, so game developers will start using it, especially since the X360 and the PS3 also have multiple cores.

littledoc

10-02-2006, 8:15 PM

9800 card? Ehm... that's old crap so to speak... i think you are very confused with the X series and the X1000 series, the new X1000 series are all PCI-E etc, the old X series are mostly AGP (or atleast they are all available as AGP), for example the X800/850 cards are the rival of the 6800 cards, the 9800 cards are rivals of the Geforce FX (series 5) cards.

Ah, yeah, I was thinking that the 9800 was the counterpart to the 6800 generation.

True, but a single core is never 100% with the game, which can cause small frame drops etc, unless you are running besides Windows itself, and all automated things shut off.

Well... Windows running, with no active programs, should be 1% or less of system resources. There's never been much of a proven advantage of running a game with a dual-core, even the new Core 2 Duos, unless you're actually running multiple programs. Check out this article (http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTEwOCwsLGhlbnRodXNpYXN0).

It's using the second core for physics.

Yeah, I've read the developer interviews. The question is, do you really need a second core for physics when modern games are not even remotely bottlenecked by the CPU? Especially since ATI and nVidia are working on onboard physics solutions, and other companies are trying to push PCI physics cards on to the market.

Single cores are history, simple as that, new games will be made to make use of 2 cores, or even more (they are coming aswell).

It's all coming, dualcore is getting standard for new PC's, so game developers will start using it, especially since the X360 and the PS3 also have multiple cores.

Yeah, like I said, dual-cores are the way to go if you're building a new system, but IMO that's more just because the new Intels just demolish anything else because they have better technology and can be bought for a reasonable price. As far as dual-core's impact on gaming... like I said, the hype's been going on for over a year and nothing's come of it. I'll believe it when I see it.

phil

10-03-2006, 5:59 AM

newegg dont post to the uk so ill have to find somewhere else

also what do i need to get the 512mb or 256mb take it the 512 one is better but is the 256mb good enough?

like this one
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=402366&source=nextag

GohanSSJ

10-03-2006, 2:11 PM

512mb is only interesting for the most powerful cards, on older cards it's useless, 256 is plenty then.
I can't really judge on prices, because it's all outdated (don't get me wrong, it's still good to use, even though it's not amazing)
Yeah, I've read the developer interviews. The question is, do you really need a second core for physics when modern games are not even remotely bottlenecked by the CPU? Especially since ATI and nVidia are working on onboard physics solutions, and other companies are trying to push PCI physics cards on to the market.

You do with a game like that, usually you just have the physics of AI etc, in Crysis plants and all will move with you when you move through it, and then go back, the physics really are amazing in it, and something that is way beyond the physics currently being used.

Also you have to understand that not every dualcore is a Core 2 Duo, if everything was on 1 core then it would choke.

phil

10-03-2006, 3:33 PM

512mb is only interesting for the most powerful cards, on older cards it's useless, 256 is plenty then.
I can't really judge on prices, because it's all outdated (don't get me wrong, it's still good to use, even though it's not amazing)

ill go with a 256 then cheers but if the graphics card ant that uptodate then what do you recommend with out spendin to much, say 120 quid?

GohanSSJ

10-03-2006, 3:50 PM

Well your main problem is that you use AGP, all the new cards are PCI-E

Anyway the 2 cards you should be looking at imo are the 7600GS and the 7800GS cards.

But in the end it depends what kind of deal you can get, ideal would be if you knew someone who had a good AGP card for sale, because while companies ask big bucks for them, they are worth so much less, but them being AGP cards just brings the price up...

phil

10-03-2006, 3:54 PM

ah i c so is there a big difference between agp and PCI-E?

GohanSSJ

10-03-2006, 4:23 PM

Yes and no, there is not much of a speed increase, but PCI-E allows you to use 2 videocards, while AGP was limited to 1.
But for the most part it's just that all the new videocards are made as PCI-E, and they are cheaper to buy.

throttlejockey

10-05-2006, 4:45 AM

strangely my computer has slightly slowed down and my dvd ablilties just went out... hmmmm :worry:

on top of my computers current suckness...

Viceman

01-14-2007, 2:44 PM

there has been problems with norton constantly using 100% CPU

steffworthington

06-18-2007, 9:37 AM

DON'T USE PALICOMP!!

Some of you may be interested to know that my g/f bought me a palicomp pc and it didn't work from the beginning, we sent it back and they kept it for 2 weeks. Getting in touch with them was a nightmare... they were never there and just kept me on hold forever.

They returned the pc with a smashed in side panel 8 weeks ago...I'm still waiting for them to replace it. The pc works fine now so my anger had cooled...until I recieved my phone bill today:
£66 just trying to get a hold of palicomp!
Their helplines 75p a minute but that isn't the worst bit...What they have neglected to mention is that (and I found this out from BT because it doesn't say it anywhere on Palicomp's literature) they charge a minimum £1.15 connection fee.
I am currently consulting with my family's firm of solicitors to see if I have a case in the small claims court.

google 'palicomp' and 'problems' and you'll find plenty of message boards devoted to palicomps cowboy attitude. Check their feedback on ebay... also the delivery guy said to me when he dropped it off " want me to hang around while you test it?" "why?" I said, "I love palicomp..their stuff is so bad that i make twice as much money taking all the faulty's back."