When will we pass Thinktank? [Archive] - Xtreme PC Central Tech Forums

mondobyte

10-02-2003, 9:17 PM

I voted for Dec 15th ... I've been out recruiting ... and I'm an eternal optomist.

I see plum ugly as an unknown factor. I might say that his herd is multiplying like rabbits ... but that could be a gross material mistatement ... it might be closer to Tribbles ... you know ... they are born pregnant.

We need new members ... if we can develop just one or two more like plum ugly then Dec 15th could be the day that we approach double Thinktanks points.

We need to market two or three ideas ...

1. Find groups of people to introduce to the idea of distributed computing. For example .... most folks have home computers and lots have DSL connections ... a little shameless recruiting at the local software or hardware store ... perhaps get permission to put up a circular there ... circular at the local grocery store, pet store, your doctor, your hospital, your veterinarian, your pharmace, your homeowners association, your professional associations, etc.

2. Approach folks for contributions to build more computers for crunching. Again ... the same folks ... Sell them on "headless" computers to crunch ... nothing more ... needs a minimal HD and video, adequate motherboard, fast processor, adequate memory, ethernet and P/S (no case, no mouse, no keyboard required) ... If necessary sign a contract that that is all that will be done with the components.

3. Find even more ways to creatively package FaD for the masses ... how about door hangings in your neighborhoods. how about door hangings in other neighborhoods.

4. Seek groups such as computer, software, and hardware user groups to be a speaker and present FaD!

Obviously you ask them to join our team but even if they don't it still benefits FaD!

Y'all think I'm about half a deck short don't ya ... commit to hanging flyers on 500 doors (1 ream of paper) ... 1 package of rubber bands. See what happens.

You want me to draft the flyer ... I will ... downloadable as a PDF.

If you won't try it ... don't bash it ...

davidw

10-02-2003, 9:18 PM

I think about it two ways, the first, going by "today's rate"
Then I think about the percent of growth over the past month.
What I have to do is think of the today's rate vs. rate of growth. We went from 3 years, to 1 year, to 7 months, to 3 months, think about it... the rate of growth is increasing on a much higher level than the "today's rate" theory. Man, this is deep.

Twinkletoes

10-03-2003, 10:11 AM

Well first let's go for a forecast on CPU-time. CPU-time is, for me, something more easily comprehended than points or (millions of) mollies.

At 1500 GMT today we had 75 years 208 days and TT had 84 years 072 days. I think I'll wait until this time tomorrow before I put my richard in the meat-mincer.

TT (alias ThinkTank)

Plum Ugly

10-03-2003, 10:24 AM

mondobyte, you make it an I'll spread them around!

tmx468

10-03-2003, 10:38 AM

Well, my heard is growing (finally filling my old boxes!!), but as they all live in my room, things are getting HOT! :eek:

I'll post a piccy later, but with 5 machines currently whirring away, and only one below a gig (933 PIII).. I have my limits!

Twinkletoes

10-03-2003, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by tmx468
...as they all live in my room, things are getting HOT! Try opening the windows...:D

GohanSSJ

10-03-2003, 12:23 PM

Now there's where the money starts kicking in.

Once it get hot enough you can get money to pay for sitting in your sauna, hell you can make a whole new thing
"To busy with your work and no time anymore for the Sauna, then come now to x where you can sit in a sauna and also go on the internet to continue with your work"

;)

Cowboybooter

10-03-2003, 5:28 PM

I added a box! Am in discussion with my eldest's school, they are interested, they have 500+ machines running 12 hrs per day!
( I hope and wish, )

Also actively recruiting, nothing yet but maybe!

My sister in law from the states was over here a coupla weeks back, she was interested, and knows what 'unused cpu cycles' are! We go visit next week, so maybe another remote? or 3 ?

I voted Dec15th! The way plum, pj, mondo and others are uploading it could be sooner!

Onwards and Upwards!

:)

Bob

davidw

10-04-2003, 3:32 PM

Yu saw nozing.

Twinkletoes

10-04-2003, 4:01 PM

CC,

First: delete that post IMMEDIATELY so that ThinkTank don't get wind of it !!!

Second: I know for a fact they frequently send spies here, and they all log in under the name of a Fad mod: "Vester". Beware !!!

Third: When you say "one machine", do you mean one of mine, or one of yours. If one of mine, which one shall I take.

Fourth: If we're gonna do that, maybe we had better cancel the poll ???

Fifth: I don't think it'll work....

TT (the real one, not a disguised rep. from ThinkTank)

GohanSSJ

10-04-2003, 4:07 PM

Neh let them add more boxes, let them put up a fight, because afterall the more fighting the more crunching, and more crunching is good. :)

mondobyte

10-04-2003, 5:59 PM

I think the best answer (and plot) is to just keep crunching as swiftly as we can.

We have all been recruiting and that can have a large positive effect.

Next, many of us are planning or implementing upgrades to our mobs over the next month or two.

I kinda feel ThinkTank are like deer in our headlights ... paralyzed! If they turn to the side we will whiz by them and if they stay on the road .. we will pass them so fast all they will see is RED ... our taillights and thier blood on the road.

You gotta figure that when they heard the TechIMO team was breaking up they were very happy and probably relaxed a bit thinking the coming threat had been thwarted. The threat of the advancing TechIMO team had been blunted. They were right.

What they never counted on was that just a month later, the new XPC team, essentially a small fragment of the still extant large TechIMO team could be gaining on them at a seemingly breakneck pace.

Keep on crunching folks ... it isn't over until the fat lady sings.

JSkorna

10-04-2003, 7:05 PM

Never, never hold on to finished jobs longer than necessary!!

Twinkletoes

10-04-2003, 7:30 PM

Originally posted by JSkorna
Never, never hold on to finished jobs longer than necessary!! ...except if it's to ****s of mickwish...

Mondo - don't really understand you there. So far as I know none of the ladies in Thinktank is fat...

Wizzard~Of~Ozz

10-04-2003, 7:47 PM

I also don't really want to hear them sing :D

but I will wave as we blow past :D

Twinkletoes

10-05-2003, 4:06 PM

Neck out and here we go. I forecast that in terms of CPU-time we'll pass ThinkTank on 15th October.

sharder8

10-05-2003, 10:25 PM

Well, I voted Dec. 15th! :p

I have a lead that would put me helping the local Vet's rep refurbish a bunch of machines. I can add up to 7 more on my network, so-o-o-o . . . . . . . . we'll see what happens. :rolleyes:

I'm also working with 2 of my neighbors to add them to my remotes (total additon of 3).

And I plan on calling my buddy from up north to see if he'll add his and his companies computers to my herd. Don't know how many or what kind, but if I can't get them added to mine, he'll set up under his own name. :p

So, I think it'll be closer to Dec. 1st! :D

Harder

davidw

10-08-2003, 7:59 AM

Guys, (and gals),
I noticed that Thinktank's dailys are starting to increase. I wonder if they have caught wind of our plans.

Cowboybooter

10-08-2003, 8:12 AM

ThinkTank may be trying to increase their output, but since their logo says 100+ GHz, and we know XPC has 250+ GHz, their struggle will be in vain!

Onwards and Upwards!

:)

Bob

davidw

10-08-2003, 8:19 AM

They're logo may say 100+, but how old is it? By now it could really be 200+, it could be 400+, or it could be 50+. We cannot judge someone by their logo, for it could be wrong.

Cowboybooter

10-08-2003, 9:04 AM

:)

I peeked into FaD Forums Test area a coupla days ago, when jmcmtank was testing out their new logo! Actually, it looks nice too!

Not as good as ours, nor as powerful, but..............

:D

Bob

Nukes

10-08-2003, 4:14 PM

I never got used to the points ratings. I just work in mollies for the most part, but judging the stats I'd say around feb-march 2004. Sorry guys, but I don't think we're gaining THAT fast. I hope its sooner and we'll have to see how all this recruitment goes. BUT we've got to stay focussed all the same.

Twinkletoes

10-10-2003, 5:51 PM

Originally posted by Twinkletoes
...in terms of CPU-time...15th October.

Well I know Mickwish has been slacking off, but I didn't know you other guys were gonna follow suit. (Joke) And I certainly had not reckoned on ThinkTub having so much spare power to sling in to the fray. (No joke)

When I made that forecast they were 8 years ahead of us and I had reckoned that with half a dozen big new recruits, we were going to catch them up by more than half a CPU-year net a day.

Not to be. Good for them, and Good for the Cause.

Tally Ho !

Plum Ugly

10-10-2003, 6:35 PM

Originally posted by Twinkletoes
And I certainly had not reckoned on ThinkTub having so much spare power to sling in to the fray. (No joke)

Not to be. Good for them, and Good for the Cause.

Tally Ho !
If an when they pump up the power. I can convert some machines and put them to work.I've been wondering how twin 2.4 Xeon workstations would do with FaD. Right now their running UD part time for about 12-15,000 points daily.

But WE NEED TO RECRUIT MORE MEMBERS.
I guess that means that I need to get off my big rear end an go to work.

davidw

10-10-2003, 7:15 PM

I've recruited 1 new member. She should be showing up in the stats in a day or so. I will email her to set the team number.

PresterJohn

10-10-2003, 8:29 PM

Originally posted by Christian-Comp
I've recruited 1 new member. She should be showing up in the stats in a day or so. I will email her to set the team number.

sounds great, Christian-Comp. :)

recruiting is the key...if we can spread the word, we can go far.

as for ThinkTank...i am not overly concerned if they pass us for a given day's output. as long as we can do 500,000-1,000,000 MORE than them every 7 days, we are ahead of the game, and it becomes only a matter of time... :)

let's remember that this team isn't even 2 months old! the fact that we've come this far, so quickly, is a wonderful testament to the people on the team.

yes, we've rocketed up the charts...but as you get closer to the top, progress gets measured in smaller steps. thinktank will continue to put up a fight. we need to recognize that this contest is more than just getting off to a fast start...it's about endurance and patience. making predictions that we can overtake them in a month or two is both premature and potentially self-defeating - because if we don't make it by the predicted deadline, then it somehow implies that we've failed, when nothing could be further from the truth!

i've thrown in a few more cows to the herd...mondo and tmx looks like they will be adding as well. those of us who can increase their production, that would be welcome news. but just as importantly, we need to get the word out about FAD and this team.

the bottom line...it doesn't matter if you've got one machine crunching fad or 20... we're all winners here...so let's keep positive, keep crunching, and keep having fun!

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mondobyte

10-10-2003, 8:54 PM

I completely agree with PJ.

For those that could not run computers 24x7 because of the summer heat, those days may be behind us. I'd like to remind everyone limited by heat problems that the time is here to dust those computers off and get them crunching 24x7. Don't turn the heat on ... turn the computers on to heat the home.

Plum, I'd love to see you put that XEON into the fray for FaD.
I didn't notice any XEONs in the XPC team besides my SMP box. You ever try to overclock that baby? As Jean Luc Picard would say, ENGAGE!

One wonders if this big dump from ThinkTub is something that they can sustain. You know, computers run on smoke. When the smoke comes out, they quit working. There's no way to put the smoke back in. Once the smoke is out, things just never work the same ... or at all. I wonder if we just saw the smoke come out of ThinkTub ;)

Patience and Persistence will win us through

davidw

10-10-2003, 9:01 PM

They are holding back on us. We need to be careful.
Hey mondobyte, anything on that trade? Thanks for working with me.

Plum Ugly

10-11-2003, 10:40 AM

Mondo it's 15 --twin 2.4 XEON IBM/DELL workstations with twin SCSI drives/1024 Mb of ram.And no they won't let me tweak them any.

I'm running UD on them now to keep up my points for BBtech but may convert them to fad and run UD on 15 here at home. when time allows.

YES,Patience and Persistence will win us through!!
It don't matter if you run 1 box or 20,part time or 24/7 it all counts

mondobyte

10-11-2003, 2:09 PM

Plum, the Xeons would be worth at least 30 computer running FaD because you can easily run 2 instances of FaD full speed on them.

On the UD side, the second processor on each of those XEONs is wasted for UD ... so here's a compromise ... Run UD & FaD on each!!! Run UD on the first processor and FaD on the second processor. Actually, you don't have to do anything special to FaD to get it to run on the other processor that UD is on.

That would be the easiest thing to do!!!

Twinkletoes

10-14-2003, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by Twinkletoes
Neck out and here we go. I forecast that in terms of CPU-time we'll pass ThinkTank on 15th October.

Right all ! I know you've been holding back waiting. I want 7 CPU-years uploaded in the next 24 hours.

Plum, stop slacking, and de-digitate.

(Well done Thinkttank for pulling out all the stops - and prolonging our enjoyment - is really what I mean, but I'm not going to say that !)

Win2Kuser

10-14-2003, 1:05 PM

When will we pass Thinktub?

When we pass them - simple as that. I wouldn't like to give a date as you can be sure that as we get closer, they will be doing everything they can to hold us at bay. I think their large dump a couple of days ago was a one off, they are struggling to get even close to our weekly output.

The beauty is that as we continue to "Breath down their necks", the more enjoyment we all get as we continue to get closer and closer and closer knowing that they can't escape.

Thinktub only seem to have 3 or 4 LARGE crunchers, we have a whole team full to the brim. If we continue as we are, we will surly take them sooner or later - me thinks sooner :)

davidw

10-14-2003, 10:48 PM

I have to agree. Yeah they had a large dump, but it was just that - just a dump. They did on one day what we do every day. I'm finally dumping 12-18k per day for my two little computers. I've gotten stuck with a LOT (over a hundred so far) of the 1flt-q4 jobs. What gives on that one. They return an average of 100 hits per job but why so many? I've had a few come close to the 300 mark on hits. I've only had one or two below 25. Is there something special with this one? I've only been doing FaD for around 5 months now (since my daughter was born) but don' t know how to figure it out. Thanks for your help.

PresterJohn

10-14-2003, 11:21 PM

christian-comp...i dunno. some queries just yield more hits than others. there can even be a wide variance among WU's in the same protein query. i really don't care how long it takes to finish a WU, since i get credited by cpu time and not # of mollies completed anyway. :)

[this is generally addressed to all the respondents to this thread, not christian-comp in particular]

i know that we're competing with thinktank for #1 right now and that potentially we have the tsc-russia team in the long term as well to think about.

but i think we need to give those guys at thinktank some props as well. some keywords used in some of the earlier posts like scared, struggling, etc...i don't think that is really true, not at all. these guys (& gals) are good...real good. collectively, they've already done a lot of hard crunching and they will continue to do a lot even if they drop to #2.

a lot of people will tell you...many times, the pressure to hold #1 is harder than the chase to get there! and these guys have held the #1 spot for a long time. it wasn't until techimo came along and finally took the honors that we saw a change of the guard. and thinktank have taken #1 right back, even if that was in part due to the TIMO to XPC split.

cheers.

mondobyte

10-14-2003, 11:36 PM

Christian Comp ... you weren't around for the 821p's ... talk about HITS ... there were a lot of those over 300, 400, 500, 600 HITS!!!!

I've got my share of 500+ hit jobs from that query. Whew ... there were some high HIT jobs that ran for 2-3 weeks on my FASTEST computers.

That was before points when all you got credit for was molecules or hits or jobs ... If you were going for molecules (which we were) it sucked but I processed them all anyway. Doing the work ... whatever is dished out.

davidw

10-15-2003, 8:15 PM

According to my posting (and findings of a small research project), I have concluded that we have slightly less than 52 days before passing Thinktank. This puts us at: December 6, 2003

EDIT: You know, I have to agree with Prester John.
Originally posted by PresterJohn
but i think we need to give those guys at thinktank some props as well. some keywords used in some of the earlier posts like scared, struggling, etc...i don't think that is really true, not at all. these guys (& gals) are good...real good. collectively, they've already done a lot of hard crunching and they will continue to do a lot even if they drop to #2.

Also as much as a competition as this is to us on the face of this, this is for a great cause. Have fun!

Twinkletoes

10-16-2003, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Twinkletoes
I forecast that in terms of CPU-time we'll pass ThinkTank on 15th October.

The 15th has gone and we've still got 5 CPU-years left. I grossly underestimated ThinkTank's ability to put more coal on the fire !

WELL DONE THINKTANK - GOOD FOR YOU ! KEEP US CHASING !

Twinkletoes

10-16-2003, 10:28 AM

Hey !

I've just noticed that there's a chase going on behind us too: TSC! Russia are creeping (?) up on TechIMO in terms of mollies.

Anybody think TSC will catch TechIMO before we catch ThinkTub ?

Edit: (N.B. I'm talking about mollies at Statsman (http://www.statsman.info/) )

mondobyte

10-16-2003, 11:04 AM

The ranking is by points TT.

The fact that TSC Russia has chosen to enhance Molecule counts by, apparently, only selecting Methodology jobs, should be of no concern to us.

Most of us crunch the tough jobs with lots of hits and slow processing. In terms of points, they don't have a chance. In fact, according to my observations, running the long running jobs actually enhances points because one does not have the no points period between the end of one job and the startup of the next as frequently.

PresterJohn

10-16-2003, 11:35 AM

>The fact that TSC Russia has chosen to enhance Molecule counts by, apparently, only selecting Methodology jobs

i'm a little curious as to how you came to that conclusion, mondo?

i have not actually gone to the find-a-drug board to run a query, but all the indicators that i've seen (from last-sat to this-tues), seem to point to the fact that tsc-russia is NOT targeting metholodogy WUs for their queus (well at least, no more than any of the other teams), ie. no queue shaping is being done by them.

if i have this incorrect...let me know. either way it doesn't matter. as i said in the fad forums, mollies completed is a somewhat meaningless statistic now.

anybody who wants that crown is more than welcome to it...

Twinkletoes

10-16-2003, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by mondobyte
The ranking is by points TT.

The fact that TSC Russia has chosen to enhance Molecule counts by, apparently, only selecting Methodology jobs, should be of no concern to us.

I am certainly aware the ranking is by points, Mondo, but I was unable to get the FAD graph working to check the situation in terms of accumulated points. If teams are NOT queue-shaping, then mollies completed do give at least some indication of how the all-important points are going, wouldn't you say ?

If you are basing your remark above on today's discussion in our thread at FAD, then when you write "TSC Russia" I suspect you might mean 'one member of Team HardOCP' ???

Vester

10-16-2003, 1:26 PM

The Comparison Graphs are at http://stats.findadrug.org/newgraph.php since the stats server change.

mondobyte

10-16-2003, 1:32 PM

i read this thread a day or two ago ... seemed to me that is exactly what was said ...
http://forum.find-a-drug.com/viewtopic.php?t=1981&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270

Twinkletoes

10-16-2003, 3:21 PM

Originally posted by Vester
The Comparison Graphs are at http://stats.findadrug.org/newgraph.php since the stats server change. Vester,

As I bemoaned elsewhere yesterday - and I remember Keith explaining it was because of the huge amount of data involved - there are no accumulative comparison graphs.

When I use the link above to compare TSC-Russia (2094) and TechIMO (2037), my estimate is that TSC-R are outscoring TechIMO by more than 1.5 million points a week. As of today TSC-R have 9.42 million points and TechIMO 30.77 million.

At risk of being excommunicated from ThinkTank if you reply "Yes": do YOU AGREE WITH ME on that ?

(The things we do to keep our teammates happy !!!)

Vester

10-16-2003, 3:33 PM

No, the graphs show how many returns in a category per day, not the total returns for a team. I'm between taxi runs with the grandchildren. Later.

If Comparison Graphs show returns per day or week, then they are showing the rate of returns. Look at hours for 2041 and 2091: Your graph is above 2041 and indicates that you are going faster, but it does not indicate that you are ahead. The vertical difference between the lines of 2091 and 2041 today indicates the rate at which you are gaining on Thinktank. After you overtake, it will indicate the rate at which you are running away.

Thinktanks' graph is almost horizontal, indicating a steady rate of returns. Your team has a positive slope which indicates that your rate of returns is increasing (accelerating).

davidw

10-17-2003, 7:44 AM

After many weeks of research, I have compiled the data and have created a chart based on my findings (of when we will pass Thinktank). Of course, this is ONLY based on my findings and can be wrong. Margin of error +/- 7 days

Twinkletoes

10-17-2003, 9:08 AM

Originally posted by Twinkletoes
Vester,
At risk of being excommunicated from ThinkTank if you reply "Yes": do YOU AGREE WITH ME on that ?

Vester's reply

No,...

C'mon Vester, I was only joking ! I'm sure ThinkTank wouldn't really excommunicate you. I didn't understand what Teams 2041 and 2091 had to do with my question...Anyway, you can disagree with me about Teams 2037 and 2094 if you like, but in that case you're WRONG.

PresterJohn

10-17-2003, 9:38 AM

>After many weeks of research, I have compiled the data

christian-comp,

asfter seeing your graph, it seems you are well suited to stand-in for win2user to do the daily stats the next time he goes on holiday. :p

Plum Ugly

10-17-2003, 10:28 AM

HEH HEH HEH, I'll second that vote PJ. Heck, I just barely have enough time to check an see if they're all running after taking care of the wife.

Mntsnow

10-17-2003, 10:45 AM

I vote for CC playing backup too ;)

Twinkletoes

10-17-2003, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by Plum Ugly
...time to check an see if they're all running after taking care of the wife. Plum,
Nobody's complaining about your production (yet), but that "after" does seem to suggest some kind of mental aberration coming on...surely you meant "before" ? It's Friday, so take it easy, relax, have a beer, and cut down the checking schedule to once per hour.

davidw

10-17-2003, 3:31 PM

Wonders, what he got himself into... :worry:

Naw, its cool. I'm just having fun.

Well, as "Goofy" would respond...

Awww shucks... Uh-hyuuk! Gaarshc!

Win2Kuser

10-20-2003, 12:23 AM

hmm, holiday eh?

What's one of them then?

I havn't had one this year yet, but will probably get away for a week in November sometime. I'll be sure to give C-Comp some notice :p

If ya want my excel worksheet, you can get it
here (http://freespace.virgin.net/m.agar/XPCStatsPointsWk11.xls)

Plum Ugly

10-20-2003, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by Twinkletoes
Plum,
Nobody's complaining about your production (yet), but that "after" does seem to suggest some kind of mental aberration coming on...surely you meant "before" ? It's Friday, so take it easy, relax, have a beer, and cut down the checking schedule to once per hour.

:) TT I didn't mean it that way.The missus had a stroke May 9.The results from that stoke took her speech and some of her mental skills, all movement on her right side is gone. She has to have somebody with her 24/7 to watch over her.

davidw

10-20-2003, 1:44 PM

Plum, I'm sorry to hear about your wife. My mother-in-law has had one not too long ago. This is her second one, and that with a heart attack, I'm surprised she's doing as well (as she is now). It's a miracle she's still with us. My wife and I will pray for you and yours.

davidw

10-20-2003, 2:08 PM

Here's my FaD calculator

What I do is copy the first two lines (completely) of the stats page and paste them to the worksheet. I adjust the day (in the red box under "days left") by taking todays date and subtracting it from how many days are in this month. Also, I don't just plug in any time of the day (although I could) but I kinda just watch during the day and when I see a pattern of similarities between the different times, I use those figures.

Click Me! I download (http://www.christian-computing.com/FaDCalculations.xls)

What version of Excel are you using? Mine is having some compatibility problems reading a few of columns and such.

mondobyte

10-20-2003, 5:23 PM

Of course, Christian Comp, your predictions will become more reliable the closer we get to that "pass"

davidw

10-20-2003, 7:00 PM

I don't do it every day, because its unreliable that way. If I space it, like say, once every two weeks or so, I can get a more accurate "prediction". I hate that word. Its more of an educated guess. I still stand behind Christmas myself (otherwise I wouldn't have voted for that). The best way to "calculate" it, is to take the numbers one day, wait a couple weeks and then use it again. You don't have to use those two teams either. Pick any two teams. Have fun!

Twinkletoes

10-23-2003, 9:00 AM

Ladies, Gentlemen, Harder,

In CPU-time, we are now within 2 years and 90 days of Thinktub. And Boy-oh-Boy, they really are starting to blow bubbles, so let's put a bit more fire under them.

davidw

10-28-2003, 8:54 PM

Ok, having a HUGE influx of new members and transfers from TIMO, I've recalculated it.

How's November 6th sound? +/- 4 days?

jmebonner

10-28-2003, 8:58 PM

Sounds awesome to me!

serlv ( Zippy )

10-28-2003, 9:09 PM

Originally posted by Twinkletoes
And Boy-oh-Boy, they really are starting to blow bubbles, so let's put a bit more fire under them.

Howso? Got links?

mondobyte

10-28-2003, 9:31 PM

But ... I don't think that was a choice in the Polls ... daggone Polls ... never ask the right questions ... but they always get answers ...

davidw

10-31-2003, 4:40 PM

We're down to the wire...
We are only behind by 1,636,532 points, which means that if we cater to uploading 400,000 per day (which we are doing) over that of Thinktank's, ...

4 days

sixf00t4

10-31-2003, 7:22 PM

how about if i make the switch over?

geobot

10-31-2003, 7:30 PM

Originally posted by sixf00t4
how about if i make the switch over?

your more than welcome to join the fun house

PresterJohn

10-31-2003, 7:39 PM

Originally posted by sixf00t4
how about if i make the switch over?

hello, sixf00t4.

new crunchers are always welcome. however, make sure you are joining us for the right reasons.

if you are joining us because you genuinely feel this board's support and this team's membership and attitude exempifies what you believe & feel about this project, then you are welcome.

but don't join us however if you harbor doubts about leaving techimo, etc.

take a look around & hang awhile...read some threads and then decide if this is the place you want to be. :)