Barton 2500+ overclocking

[Sarah Shaw]

I am new to o/c so plz speak to me like an idiot. I have an aus a7n8x deluxe ver1.04 with 1006 asus bios.i also have a barton 2500+ chip and i went into the bios ,changed a number from 11 to 12.5 and now it says 2800+ barton at 2.09 ghz. When i xhoose 13 my comp runs at only 1000 mhz.How do i step this up.I know some people change fsb thingy, mines 166. But some people say they are 176, but i can only coose 133,166 or 200. How do i clock my chip to says barton 3000+ or 3200+ and how can i get my fsb thing to go up more gradually. Many big thanks you's for your help. By the way, i am using a amd heatsink and fan, i know what your going to say but my cpu runs at only 77f.Thx again.

[Win2Kuser]

You've got PM

What is your ram specs? i.e. is it PC3200 etc.

[Sarah Shaw]

Memory is 3200 of ddr running at 200mhz. 512 megs of it on 1 stick with heatsinks (geil brand).I clocked my barton to 2.17 ghz. Running stable at that but it says its a barton 2800+. I ve clocked it to a barton 3000+, why doesnt it say that, my fsb is 174, my volts are 1.7 and my something else is 12.5.Can you advise me plz..THANKyou xxxxx

[n7vxj]

Sarah, have you updated your bios to the latest one? That could be why it doesn't call it a 3000. I'm gonna give you some terminology names since ya wanna be an overclocker!!! lol That something else your talking about is called your multipliers, and your voltage is called your Vcore,Just thought you should know, in case someone ask you what you have them set at.

[BBA]

2.17 is pretty good for starters. 77ºF is impossibly cool...77ºC is pretty hot, if thats what it is. What temperature sensor are you using and if it is a remote wire type, where is it connected to the heatsink/cpu? Are you using the Asus temp monitor?



I would recommend a case mod of a fan blowing in on the side cover of the case directly over the CPU/video area to get maximum air cooling. (fans in the back of the case dont work as well.)

[Sarah Shaw]

Ive had to knock it down to 2.09 ghz as the thing was a little unstable. My cpu temp is 77f and holding .i got the a7n8x deluxe ver1.04 and bios 1006 which is the latest.My barton 2500+ is now a very steady xp2800+, but i want more. I wanted it to say 3200+.My vcore volts are 1.65 , my fsb is 166 and mulitplier is now 12.5. I think that bout it. I have a side case fan thingy.And my vid card is an Gainward 5600 ultra 580 xp with 256 megs of ddr on it. I have 3 comps all networked to gether as well.Can someone tell me how to get to barton 3200 please.

[Win2Kuser]

The easiest way to go 3200 is to increase your FSB to 200MHz and set your multiplier to 11. 11x200=2200=XP3200 !

Seems strange that you can't do this though.

[n7vxj]

Sarah, have you got your fsb jumper set to pins 2 and 3? If not set it there, and then try using your multipliers to get where you wanna go.

[Sarah Shaw]

Why do i need pins 2 and 3 connected. Does this tell the motherb to set the cpu to 333.

[n7vxj]

No it sets it at 200 which should make it easier using your multipliers to get where you wanna go with that thing.Try it, and if it doesn't work, you can always go back. This is from the Asus website, which I visited researching your motherboard to help you with some answers.After you set it to 200 try setting your multiplier at 11, and see what happens.

[Win2Kuser]

Sarah, if you look at the PM I sent you earlier, copy the details from my exact same system, you shouldn't have any probs with that. Oh yeah, I put about the cpufsb jumper as well :p

Dan:
You mean you actually got some useful info from the Asus site :eek: Their support ATM is getting worse :(

[n7vxj]

Sarah, you might better read this since it concerns your temp readings!!! http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=156405

[n7vxj]

Might want to check this one out, as well!! It appears the version you have was never made to do 400fsb, so you may have a major problem getting it that high!!!http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=233929

[Sarah Shaw]

Thx for help, ill try it :)

[Sarah Shaw]

I cant get to 200fsb. Whats the best bios to have in an a7n8x deluxe ver-1.04

[n7vxj]

Sarah, go here.http://homepage.ntlworld.com/michael.mcclay/
They are having missed results with this bios, so, BE VERY CAREFUL, AND MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHEN FLASHING TO THIS BIOS!! The one you want is: A7N8X-Dlx Uber 1004 for the version 1.** boards REMEMBER YOU FLASH TO THIS BIOS AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!

[Sarah Shaw]

N7V, thanks, ive flashed loads of bio's and never had a problem yet. Iam using 1004 uber from Demoulos or some name like that. My comp is now 2.13 ghz. Fsb is 170, mult's are 12.5 and vcore voltage is 1.65. Wish i could push it further but it falls over. I really want to hit 2.4 ghz or something like that.

[n7vxj]

Sarah, if you can up your vcore a tad bit more, I would try that, and see if it allows to go any higher.Other than that, it appears you are stuck where you are!! It kinda sucks, the version 1 boards just weren't designed to do the 400fsb.

[Sarah Shaw]

I have 2 boards 1 is a version 1.04 the other is 2.0 One comp is now a 3200+ from a 2500+ and the other is 2800+ out of a 2500+. Whats the normal temp for these things. One is like 50c the other is only 20c . To get 3200 i have had to put the fsb jumper on motherb to 200 and the fsb in bios to 200, the multipliers are 11.0 . Speak soon.

[NDC]

My cpu temp is 77f and holding


That is one very amazing temp there... Almost makes me wonder if your sensor is reporting correctly...

[Sarah Shaw]

I am using a prog called Aida32 to check out stuff on my motherb.My mb with version 1.04 in is 68f the other comp which is a barton 2500 clocked to a barton 3200 and version 2.0 a7n8x is 138f. Is this too hot.

[BBA]

Sarah...how cold is the temperature in the room your computer is running in? You say the one reads 68ºF...well that seems a little cold for most people and having a CPU temp lower than room temp is impossible unless you have some type of thermocouple/peizo/refrigeration cooling system.

Also, with the stock AMD heatsink you say you have...the coldest it will keep a CPU even at stock speeds is like 12ºF above room temperature at idle, so even in a 70ºF room, then BEST case you can get is like 82ºF CPU temp...and I have never seen it that low on any AMD.

What I am trying to say is I dont think your monitoring temperature accurately, either by software error or mislocated sensors.

[Sarah Shaw]

my cpu diode is saying 44c.Room temp is 73c.My pc runs cool all time, .I upgrade and change bits in it all the time.Eh, the other pc i got runs a lot hotter. I use the program called Aida32, try it here, get the enterprise edition, not the other 2 ok http://www.aida32.hu/aida32.php , get it a go.

[BBA]

44ºC is a normal temp with a stock heatsink. Thats about 112ºF, not too hot at all.

On my 3200, I had to bump to 1.7v to get 2.4GHz stable. Dont be worried about going up a few tenths of a volt, it only makes them a little hotter but helps stability.

[Sarah Shaw]

Hey BBA, thanks for your good advice, nice to see some people are willing to help a newcomer and take an interest.How do i clock up to 2400mhz with a stock(normal amd retail) fan/cooler.The jumper on my motherboard cpu fsb is on 200, its NOT on 266/333.My multiplier is 11 and the cpu external freq is 200 mhz. My vcore is 1.65, what should i adjust? Should i put the vcore up to 1.70 volts and should i raise the mulitplier a little bit. My email is cheeky.chimp@ntlworld.com MANY THX.

[Sarah Shaw]

Since the last post, about 5 mins ago. I put the vcore voltage to 1.70, and the multiplier to 12, now i get 2400mhz. Will this be ok. ????

[Sarah Shaw]

It wont run 3d mark though now. So ive gone back to 1.65 volts and multipliers is set to 12. What should i set the volts to. I want 2400 mhz and i want it stable. Can you advise me please.

[n7vxj]

Sarah,did you let it burn in for a few hours at the new settings before trying to run 3d mark? If not, try that first.You may also have to bump up vcore a tad bit more than 1.7 to get it to run stable enough to do 3 d mark.You have to keep in mind that what works on one board, and cpu, make not work on another one, even if they are the same.Your two boards are a good example.Don't be afraid to experiment, but do it carefully, and keep a close eye on your temps!!

[Sarah Shaw]

My version 2 board running an athlon xp barton 2500 is stable at 2200.Fsb is 200, vcore is 1.65 mults are set at 11. All seems well. Sahme my version 1.04 just doesnt want to play out day. I can only get it to say barton 2800+. Mind you, im sorta happy. Will putting the jumper on the mohtherboard from 266/333 to only 200 affect performance. Will this chip now run like a 3200+ or does it just post as that.Thx.

[PC Bliss]

I would not advice trying to get the 2500+ to run at 2.4 ghz on the stock hsf!

[smokin]

I'm not quite figuring why you are running a chip that does 333 at 200..am I missing something? My Barton is quite stable at higher speeds..

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if it posts at a speed..it will run it
:)

[Sarah Shaw]

Yes, if it post at a speed it may well run but it might not be stable.Can be down to quality of memory sometimes.I found that the system was very unstable and kept rebooting itself when pushed playing a heavy game.I have 2 pc's. Both these have a7n8x deluxe m/b's , one is version 2.0 the other 1.04.The 2.0 is the bettter one but to post my barton 2500 at 3200 i have had to put jumper on motherboard to 200fsb.It just wont post when its on 266.333 jumper.

[BBA]

smoking...I think when she said 200 she meant 400 in context with the 333, which is really 166 since we are all talking DDR speeds...

If you follow. :D


Sarah... I ran the aida32. It recognizes my board but it incorrectly reports my drive size/type and memory settings.

My drive is a 200 GB SATA and aida does not recognize that. My memory is generic PC3200 I bought about two years ago and has no apic chip...so aida reports it as the chipsets default timings, which I know it is not running at. Also, aida only reports what the advertised performance numbers are...not actual bandwidth numbers and such.

[Sarah Shaw]

Keep checking the aida32 web site. They upgrade and alrt a lot. Email them, rxplain, im sure they will bring a revised version out.

[PC Bliss]

Not to steal the thread, but in my setup in dos it says my resulting memory speed is 200mhz.... does that me 400 actual? When i put it on auto for the memory, i seem to get better benchmark scores.

[gino x]

If you wanna do that kind of thing, you should get an aftermarket cooling solution.

I'd say go for a Thermaltake Volcano 12 or a Thermalright SLK947u/SP97 with a good fan.