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otheos
10-24-2001, 12:31 PM
With current burning technology reaching the limits (16x is the last CLV, everything higher should be considered a "max" rating), cd burners are going through their anomaly period.

Remember when CDROM's changed from CLV to P-CAV and then CAV? each company came with a different solution untill the various advantages and dissadvantages showed the way and everybody went back doing the same (CAV) again.. With burners it's a bit more complex as there are more technological differences involved.

Starting from the basic: P-CAV or Z-CLV??
Well considering that Z-CLV is the trend at the moment (only Yamaha uses P-CAV), you'd expect most bunrers > 16x to be Z-CLV.
Opposite to what the market was 1 year ago, the choice now is more complicated as it's not a single matter of "what brand". Personally, with all my admire and respect for plextor drives, I believe Yamaha got it right this time. So the choice now is in the grounds of "which solution". Is the 24x burner from Plextor better than Yamahas 20x?

You can't say, because they're different. Is the 24x Plextor better than the 24x TDK (both use Sanyo's Z-CLV and BURN proof)? Well, both are good, the Plextor is better (look at their details). So yes, Plextor is still king (for Z-CLV or CLV drives). Considering that everybody is already looking to 32x burning, how will this come by? Z-CLV starts currently at 16x CLV, changes to 20x and then to 24x (at the moment) To make the jump to 32x, we first need to sort out the drive's ability to record at 32x (at the outer part only).

I believe this will be solved soon, but what will stay as it is now will be the 16x at the centre. At the moment I see no way of overcoming this (heck, even readers can't read any higher than 17-20x in the centre). There is a margin up to 20x in the centre but it's small.

And then they'll just add a new zone at the end (or even more) for 24x->28x->32x etc... So this will give even more gaps!!!

In 1 year's time, the fastest burner will be around 32x in this way, yet you will want to burn your CDDA at 16x clv to avoid the gaps (sometimes audible), and the same for mastering (for the duplicators). Yamaha on the other hand, with P-CAV, has the same limitations in the centre (currently starts at 12x) and with the margin being around 20x they got some room.

So in 1 year their faster burner will be 32x max (P-CAV or maybe full CAV), a bit slower than the Z-CLV drive (we are talking 2min total time so differences will be like...15-30sec and although this is 15-20% slower, 15sec is hardly a difference) but you'll be able to burn your CDDA's and dup-masters at full speed.

In conclusion, with all the (hype?) discussion around considering data integrity with Z-CLV drives, I believe P-CAV (or CAV) is now the way to go, and will be in the future.

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otheos
10-24-2001, 12:31 PM
Here are some quick links for starters...



look here for the TDK (http://www.cdrlabs.com/review.php3?reviewid=54) and here for the Yamaha (http://www.cdrlabs.com/review.php3?reviewid=49) reviews at CDRLABS. This will give you an idea of the two technologies.



This (http://www.cdrinfo.com/hardware/yamaha2200e/index.shtml) is another take on the technology differences by CDR-Info (http://www.cdrinfo.com), given in their review of the 2200E drive.

Also some short explanations here (http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=faq_general.html)





General CD related info can be found here (http://www.pctechguide.com/08cd-rom.htm)



and don't forget the power of google (http://www.google.com)



More to follow...



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