Heat solution #1 for grouped systems

[davidw]

Has anyone thought of this????? I think I might try this.
For those of you who have heat problems and a lot of systems in one room, what can you think of that puts out as much heat as a computer? A clothes dryer? It is the only thing that compares in usage.

I one was to take the concept of heat removal for clothes dryers and apply that to the exhaust fans on a computer... :D

Think about it...

Making ducting out of dryer duct and having the ducts connect to a central duct with small fan driving the heat out (of say a window).

It could work.

Is anyone willing to try it? Win2k? PU? What have you got to lose... a higher bill?

I know its a crazy thought, so at least grant me one of those. (TT, I know what you are thinking).

[Centurion]

I live in Canada - I use mine to melt snow!

:) C

[Cowboybooter]

Wouldn't it be tidier to just leave the window open? :D

I hear what you are saying, C-C, but wouldn't that be a nightmare trying to connect each computer into the venting duct? You could end up with so many bits of flexible pipe that the room begins to resemble an early Dr. Who Set!

Interesting call though, I know a few folk have concentrated on bringing Cold Air in, ( A/C units, ) but I think tmx is the only one so far to explore ducting the heat out, to the rest of the house!

:)

Bob

[davidw]

http://www.screwfix.com/sfd/i/cat/17/1703_l.jpg (the white piece - top right)

what you could do is run one long one approx. 10-30' long along the base of the systems and then out the window. Then you could use 1-3' pieces and attach them from the rear of your system to a section of the main hose. The only electricity you'd use is on the fan exhausting the air.

[Edsel]

uhm....21st century...

air conditioning? cooling? 5 fans each pc? those easy solutions

If it was up to me my room would not go above 20 degrees Celcius any time of the year

[davidw]

I wasn't referring to the inside of the case (with the 5 fans). I was referring to the heat on the output of each system. The room where I had 2 systems in before moving them was about 20 degrees warmer 24/7 as opposed to the rest of the house.

The problem with the air conditioning is that it costs money, and lots of it!!! The cooler you want it, the more money it will cost ya. I would love to have a 68 degree Farenheit temp, myself, but it would cost too much money (except during the winter time). One part of the house is 82 and the other rooms are 63. Go figure. The problem is that the thermostat is on the adjacent wall as the computer room. Heat travels through the thin wall to the thermostat so it gives an inaccurate reading.

[tmx468]

It was only a matter of time before I came here..! :D

The issues isn't how many fans you have in your PC Edsel, but good thought process.

The issues are 2 fold as I experience it! :)

1. THE PSU. This kicks out heat, no matter what you do. Grrr.
2. THE PC. CPU. Hard Drive, Graphics Card and whatever else you have in there... it all adds up.

Combine the 2, and there is heat coming out the back of the PC. When you have 1 system, its fine, but with more.. :eek:

My method involves an extractor fan at the top of the room, above the units, to keep the warmest air out, and drag up the cooler air.

However, it isn't powerful enough (although it makes a big difference!)

As soon as my window is slightly ajar, the airflow is perfect for a room temperature room, no matter what temp it is outside :)

Of course, being a basement room, I can't keep the window open.

And IMO, the ducting would look ugly.. :p

[davidw]

I'll work on more methods, tmx, they're just ideas to generate more ideas.

[tmx468]

The main source of heat from my machines is the PSU rather than the Computer itself... if there was a way to cool those babies down, my (and many other's) lives would be much cooler... :D

[Edsel]

if u love ur computers..u will get an ac...no matter the cost :P

[rourkchris]

How about this http://petcool.com/products.htm

[Twinkletoes]

Rourkchris

Read the bottom líne:

*Tools required: 3/8" power drill, flat-head screw driver, pencil. I don't like the sound of that !

But that kind of thing seems to be what I would call a "desert cooler". They're used a lot in Saudi Arabia (and India too, I believe) and comsume about a quarter of the power of an air conditioner. Much quieter too - something for Win2K !!!

[Cowboybooter]

originally posted by TT
Tools required: flat-head

Assumedly from banging it in frustration!

:D

Bob

[Nukes]

The best way is to get cool air in, rather than trying to get hot air out. Its also better to have a slightly higher pressure inside the cases.
You just use the same fan ducting idea, but instead of blowing air out (thus sucking the hot air from the other machines into them) put cold air in, from outside or a window etc.
That said, opening a window normally drops my cpu temps about 15-20c.

[Twinkletoes]

You must have some pretty bl--dy big windows - and a fairly unhealthy outdoor temperature.

to get cool air in, rather than trying to get hot air out Could you be a little more precise please. Are you talking about in and out of the room, or in and out of the computers ?

[Twinkletoes]

Here is the reason for my question (excuse the Indian English):


1.0 - Desert Coolers - Definitions – Physical concept



1.1 -The Physical concept and its properties would define a water evaporation process cooling the air - by increasing the internal ( housing / space ) humidity as a result of water circulation .



1.2 -The operational concept is achieved by pushing dry air through an
evaporative wet mattresses which would cause the
evaporation procedure ( absorption of the humidity through a wet mattress
throwing the cool air into the desired space ) .



This procedure needs heat energy which is taken from the air and cools it .



It should be noticed that the drier the air, the better the process of humidity
absorption , thus creating more cool air.



1.3 - The Cooler operation is combined of two systems

v Air flow system

v Water circulating system



1.3.1 Air Flow System

The system operates by causing external dry air suction into the internal
desired cooling space through EM (Evaporation Mattresses ) - inserted
into the external casing shutters - by a blower which will cause
under ( low ) pressure in the cooling casing .



The air from the cooler is pushed by the same blower through
the cooler outlet into the distribution ducts flowing through the distributing shutters into several spaces of the building .



It should be mentioned that the cooler is operating in an open system
which forces the air from the cooled space back to the outside
space , which is enabled by leaving the window /windows slightly open .

[rourkchris]

TT is it the screwdriver that scares you;) from the petcooler? The $399.00 scares me(and having to use a pencil:D)

[Twinkletoes]

Originally posted by rourkchris
TT is it the screwdriver that scares you... Nawww...Nahhh. I'm slowly getting over that. In fact I was even looking at some anti-static wrist-cuffs (in a catalogue !) the other day. You know, one has to look the part when one's friends come around - screwdriver behind the ear, some loose cables and bits and bobs stacked in the bookcase...

$399. Hmm. That seems a helluva lot, about the same price as an a/c. But definitely quieter, much cheaper on power, and "no maintenance", as the salesmen say.

But until such time as Nukes decides whether he wants to get hot or cold air in or out (and in or out of what) I shall refrain from making any more helpful (???) suggestions !!!

[Cowboybooter]

Does the $399.00 include the Dog?

:)

Bob

[roadtech]

All may computer case's have top exhaust fans which of course send the heat to the ceiling where i have installed a large bathroom type fan that's ducted outside. But than it's to easy to do and makes to much sense.....:)

[PresterJohn]

Originally posted by roadtech21224
All may computer case's have top exhaust fans which of course send the heat to the ceiling where i have installed a large bathroom type fan that's ducted outside. But than it's to easy to do and makes to much sense.....:)

roadtech, we need more sensible people like you on the team. any interest in running FAD? :D

http://www.find-a-drug.com/frame.html

[Twinkletoes]

Originally posted by PresterJohn
roadtech, we need more sensible people like you

Not too many, and not too sensible, because otherwise these boards would get a bit boring...;)

Thanks for the link, PJ. Very interesting !!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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